For the first time ever on any podcast, Dale joins us to share a story he has kept close for decades. Raised in the heart of a Virginia sawmill by his grandparents, Dale grew up as an expert woodsman and an avid hunter, navigating the dense forests of the Shenandoah Valley with ease. But at age 15, while out in the timber, he witnessed something that defied every law of nature he knew.

It was a sighting so vivid it changed his life forever. From the quiet life of a sawmill boy to a witness of the unknown—tune in to hear Dale’s story in his own words.

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